tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post7333316126547799560..comments2024-01-25T12:33:03.851+10:30Comments on Telling the History of the Twenty-First Century as it Really Is: BRITAIN JOINS U.S. AND ISREALI HYPE OVER IRANDamian Lataanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06886295381135372084noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-42208783350952592232011-07-09T11:24:12.164+09:302011-07-09T11:24:12.164+09:30Hi NS
I'm finishing up a PhD thesis on neocon...Hi NS<br /><br />I'm finishing up a PhD thesis on neoconservatism and its influence on US foreign policy in the Middle East. I'm trying to get it polished off by September. Part of the thesis does examine the roles that conservatives in Australia and elsewhere played, and also the role of Murdoch.<br /><br />I was aware that Saudi Arabia had purchased Chinese missiles though for diehard neocons Richard Perle and David Frum it would make no difference who they were aimed at because Perle and Frum are adamant that Saudi Arabia should be on the list of Islamic nations that the US should destroy. (See 'An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror'. pp. 129-142.) The neocons couldn't be happier if the Middle East nations turned on each other; they're all enemies of Israel as far as the neocons are concerned.<br /><br />You have to wonder who is provoking who behind the scenes though I'd have a reasonable idea!<br /><br />Cheers<br />DamianDamian Lataanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886295381135372084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-76956474835046316732011-07-07T16:14:17.994+09:302011-07-07T16:14:17.994+09:30No worries Damian mate, time waits for no man and ...No worries Damian mate, time waits for no man and I hope your research goes well.<br />Can you say what its about?.<br /><br />Perhaps an analysis on what 'hold' the yanks have on Aussie politicians?. (I'm sure we're threatened behind the scenes if we step out of line by withdrawing their patronage or Murdoch does an axe job on them being the propaganda arm of the American empire).<br /><br />Just a quick cogent point on Iranian missiles.<br />Did you know that in the late 1980's the Saudi's bought of China about 50x CSS-2 (as we call them) mid range ballistic missiles?.<br /><br />About 2500km range or so but inaccurate.<br />They were operational by the early '90's and there was much alarm at their acquisition by the Saudi's (unknown to the yanks at first), but everyone got used to them and now hardly anyone remembers!.<br />There was alarm too that with such inaccuracy, that perhaps the Saudi's may develop Chemical warheads to hit cities, but after assurances by the Saudi's, all was well as it was said that the missiles were aimed not as Israel, but Iran!.<br /><br />So who was 'provocative' first?.<br />Seems to me the Saudi's secretly going off and buying ballistic misiles in the '80's and supposedly aiming them at Iran, is more a provocation than the behaviour of the Iranians today.<br />Perhaps the Iranians shortly afterwards may have aimed their missiles (what they had in the early '90' at least), but the point is, who started it?.<br />Seems to me the Saudi's, but of course they're the mates of the yanks so thats alright then isn't it!.<br />Bloody hypocrites!.<br /><br />Look if up if you like and then ask who was being 'provocative' first, especially in light of the fears at the time of WMD warheads being employed to compenate for the missiles inaccuracy!.<br /><br />I'd almost forgotten this titbit, but the matter of missiles made me thing a bit more about the matter.<br /><br />I think I first read it in 'Flight International' magazine in the run up to the Gulf war in 1990, so its not been secret for a fair while now!.<br />But of course, the ratbags in the U.S etc rely on people forgetting believing their 'repeated lies as truth' claims!.<br /><br />Hope this helps clarify matter s more,<br /><br />Nylon ShirtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-58333837185415669482011-06-30T16:09:59.936+09:302011-06-30T16:09:59.936+09:30You're dead right, NS; repeat the lie often en...You're dead right, NS; repeat the lie often enough and it soon becomes 'fact' in the minds of those who can't see beyond Murdochised news.<br /><br />I also get annoyed at the Right-wing propaganda that says those on the Left are in bed with the likes of some of the despot governments that happen to support Palestine. Personally, my beef is about Israel and their Western supporters wanting to wage war - full stop; regardless of who it is against, but for the Right-wing this somehow morphs into supporting extremists. <br /><br />As far a Iran is concerned, there is no proof whatsoever that they have anything like a nuclear weapons program. This is just being used as an excuse for war. I don't like the way does stuff, but I like even less the idea of an utterly devastating war that will kill thousands for no other reason than to extend ones own empire.<br /><br />Cheers<br />Damian<br /><br />PS As I said before, please don't feel neglected if I don't always respond to your comments. Times is running away from as I finish up a research project that now has a deadline. DLDamian Lataanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886295381135372084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-39219884909359694962011-06-30T14:57:41.133+09:302011-06-30T14:57:41.133+09:30I fear the iranians are in one of those dreadful p...I fear the iranians are in one of those dreadful positions where whatever they do, they can't win as their accusers want us to listen to them and their spiteful claims and ignore the many inconsistancies in their long running vendetta against iran.<br /><br />Personally, I don't think much of the politicians etc running the show there, but no-one deserves to be attacked in a new war which is a greater wrong.<br />Moreover it annoys me that this 'iranian nuclear weapon' campaign is getting worse simply through repetition in 'western' media.<br />I've had to email the ABC in the past with healthy reminders to not conflate an announced nuclear energy programme with the dubious claims by some fools about a weapons programme .<br /><br />The inertia of warmongering I fear!.<br /><br />Simply, Iran has painted itself in a corner by renouncing nuclear weapons, so if any weapon were to be tested, to do so would be a violation of its past statements and demonstate deception, ergo, they'd be violating their Islamic sense of integrity.<br /><br />Moreover any claims against iran must have proof like any legal process, but I fear the inertia of claims is now by repetition becoming 'proof' in the minds of jaundiced men in the U.S and its sycophants (including here in Australia).<br /><br />The only good thing is that the yanks are war weary and a new one against iran would be dreadful and very difficult indeed for all.<br />Global recession or worse at the very least as one byproduct.<br />Moreover, as Libya, Afghan, Iraq demonstrates, wars now aren't going as well as the 'Daleks' thought they would<br />so the prospects are low for a new one.<br /><br />I suspect though the anti iran campaign are just the empty mutterings of a discredited group who have no credibility, but now are in that mode where they are now goosing around like the madman in the street badgering anyone passing to listen to them as only they 'know the truth'.<br /><br />So on balance, I thnk we're safe and another war is unlikely for all concerned.<br /><br />It makes you wonder though, what would happen if Australia finally stoped being a servile sycophant to the tyrannical American empire and went down the nuclear path, would we be then subject to a campaign as iran is.<br /><br />Think about the plain package cigarette plans by the government here as an example.<br />I find little of value in any side of politics, but I can see merit in this idea by Roxon (I've never smoked in my life) and wonder why cigarettes weren't banned decades ago!.<br /><br />How fragile are our 'friends' and 'alliances', where in truth they only stand as long as we obey them!.<br /><br />Nylon ShirtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com