tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post621222426831909638..comments2024-01-25T12:33:03.851+10:30Comments on Telling the History of the Twenty-First Century as it Really Is: THE RIGHT-WING ISRAELI LOONY LOBBY GET DESPERATE AS THE MYTH OF ‘AL QAEDA’ BECOMES INCREASINGLY EXPOSED.Damian Lataanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06886295381135372084noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-69614604378064335592007-04-25T21:36:00.000+09:302007-04-25T21:36:00.000+09:30The religion is important because you claimed that...The religion is important because you claimed that, "[t]he reality is that most Islamic peoples fighting the US and Israel are doing so because both of these nations have invaded lands that belong to <B>Islamic</B> peoples. Simple as that." That is why I focussed on an attack that was blamed on Muslims.<BR/><BR/>In my first comment I asked what invasion motivated the 9/11 attackers. If they were Muslim then they would likely have been be motivated by an invasion, as per your claim. The question in my comment was simple: which invasion?<BR/><BR/>If they were Muslims but NOT motivated by US invasions - and while you don't claim they are you also don't deny they could be - then what DID motivate them? And if we don't know what did, how can we exclude a US invasion as something that did?<BR/><BR/>Finally, if they weren't Muslim attackers then the point is moot. After all, you made no claim to know what motivates non-Islamic attacks in your post. However, it would be nice to know what leads you to believe they were not Muslims. I understand from your previous posts you don't believe they were al-Qaeda acting in the way the US claims they were but, as you realise, there is a big difference between professing faith in Islam and being a member of al-Qaeda. In this case, what convinced you the people involved weren't Muslim?<BR/><BR/>The religion is only important because you made a specific claim for a specific religious identity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-12021500147573817122007-04-19T21:22:00.000+09:302007-04-19T21:22:00.000+09:30I did not say or imply "...that no one who could b...I did not say or imply "...that no one who could be called an Islamic person took part in the 9/11 attacks". I simply said I don't know what the religion of the perpetrators of 9/11 were. I don't know why their religion is important. They could have been atheists for all I know. I don't know why it should be so necessary or important for them for them to have been Muslims.<BR/><BR/>I place no importance whatsoever on the religion of the perpetrators of this crime.Damian Lataanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886295381135372084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-19084035551448964172007-04-19T20:46:00.000+09:302007-04-19T20:46:00.000+09:30You imply that no one who could be called an Islam...You imply that no one who could be called an Islamic person took part in the 9/11 attacks. You question hwo the US government reached their conclusions; I was just wondering how you reached that conclusion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-33073306408443092872007-04-19T20:39:00.000+09:302007-04-19T20:39:00.000+09:30I don't what religion the perpetrators of 9/11 wer...I don't what religion the perpetrators of 9/11 were. I'm not in to the new racism of religion and culture which seems to bother you so much.Damian Lataanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886295381135372084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-70461631894161479682007-04-19T20:15:00.000+09:302007-04-19T20:15:00.000+09:30You said, "The reality is that most Islamic people...You said, "The reality is that most Islamic peoples fighting the US and Israel are doing so because both of these nations have invaded lands that belong to Islamic peoples."<BR/><BR/>I suggested the 9/11 attacks as events perpetrated by Islamic people.<BR/><BR/>For the sake of argument lets imagine it wasn't bin Laden behind it (as you seem to suggest). Further, let's assume for the sake of argument that the US Government's story is not the correct one. <BR/><BR/>Would you further assert that Islamic people had nothing to do with the attacks?<BR/><BR/>If your answer is 'yes' then perhaps you could explain what led you to believe 1/6th of humanity is completely innocent - particularly in light of your oft-stated opinion that you don't know what did happen, only what didn't happen.<BR/><BR/>Conversely, if your answer is 'no' then the original question still stands: why did these particular Islamic persons become involved in the 9/11 attacks?<BR/><BR/>Your original post clearly says "most" Islamic peoples so it is clear you are not claiming all are motivated by US invasions. Thus, it is also possible for any Muslims involved in 9/11 to fall outside this "most" category.<BR/><BR/>So, to bring this comment to its conclusion, do you claim that (a) no Islamic people were involved in the 9/11 attack; (b) Islamic people were involved but not motivated by US invasions; (c) Islamic people were involved and motivated by US invasions?<BR/><BR/>* Sorry for reposting but I think Blogger ate my comment last time. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-69635878227574206312007-04-19T17:58:00.000+09:302007-04-19T17:58:00.000+09:30Yeah right, anonymous. Just remind me again, who d...Yeah right, anonymous. Just remind me again, who did the 9/11 attacks? And if you answer bin Laden did it then prove it because the US government certainly hasn't.<BR/><BR/>I should also remind you that the US were planning to attack Afghanistan months before 9/11.Damian Lataanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886295381135372084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-20863161300911267492007-04-19T17:04:00.000+09:302007-04-19T17:04:00.000+09:30What lands were the US invading to provoke the 9/1...What lands were the US invading to provoke the 9/11 attacks?<BR/><BR/>Iraq Part One was an old story by then (and if you believe some on the left then Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism anyway). The US was invited into Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States. The US was part of a wider force bringing peace to majority Muslim parts of the former Yugoslavia and was an invited guest in Central Asian majority Muslim republics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com