tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post1033310211883804123..comments2024-01-25T12:33:03.851+10:30Comments on Telling the History of the Twenty-First Century as it Really Is: DOES ALLIED INTERVENTION IN LIBYA GO TOO FAR?Damian Lataanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06886295381135372084noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-43346384975591449202019-12-04T19:29:20.116+10:302019-12-04T19:29:20.116+10:30hihiField engineerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08368954071302365577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-11973301426725895702011-03-27T10:27:07.752+10:302011-03-27T10:27:07.752+10:30Sorry Anonymous, but you'll find that Gaddafi ...Sorry Anonymous, but you'll find that Gaddafi actually complies with virtually all of Britt's characteristics of fascism. <br /><br />There are many that label themselves 'socialist' when in fact they are fascist; Gaddafi is one of them. He's no more 'socialist' than Hitler was.Damian Lataanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886295381135372084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-30376843398454204992011-03-27T08:32:40.340+10:302011-03-27T08:32:40.340+10:30With respect Damian,I dispute your assertion that ...With respect Damian,I dispute your assertion that Gaddafi is a fascist. Of the 14 classic signifiers of fascism more are displayed by the western 'democracies' than by Libya.<br />Gaddafi's ideology shows a rather muddled sicialism, imperfect certainly, and not wholly realised, but socialism nevertheless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-49530681605967082212011-03-24T10:37:23.477+10:302011-03-24T10:37:23.477+10:30Anonymous, the difference between Gaddafi and Cast...Anonymous, the difference between Gaddafi and Castro, Chavez and Morales is that Gaddafi is a fascist whereas the others are socialist, though they still have a way to go before they really are socialists.Damian Lataanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06886295381135372084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-18287679445099215952011-03-22T18:12:17.788+10:302011-03-22T18:12:17.788+10:30I have read this blog admiringly for several years...I have read this blog admiringly for several years, but in this instance find myself in disagreement.<br />Gaddafi,like Castro, Chavez and Morales has always been subjected to vicious demonisation.<br />There is little or no evidence, other than unsupported allegations, that the offenses attributed to him are genuine.<br />His real crime is his insistance on maintaining Libya's control over its own resources and banking system, which has given<br /> the people the <br />highest per capita income and quality of life on the African continent. Higher in some instances than some European countries.<br />Naturally the impostion of neo-liberal economics will soon change all that.<br />It has been estimated that the number of disparate groups opposing him equate to about 600.000 out of a population of approximately 6 million.<br />The lies and misinformation in the MSM are at about the level of those in the lead-up to the Iraq war, which began exactly 8 years ago to the day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-29710732960120350712011-03-22T17:04:41.386+10:302011-03-22T17:04:41.386+10:30We are backed into a corner with statements like G...We are backed into a corner with statements like Gaddafi must go. Regime change is what the rebels are counting on. The coalition to do the job for them. Lucky rebels. Once again into the fray with no exit strategy in place.Atlanta Roofinghttp://www.hotfrog.com/Companies/Atlanta-Roofing-Resourcesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-31747153540223418852011-03-21T23:11:31.704+10:302011-03-21T23:11:31.704+10:30An absolutely vital point:
We know - or by now b...An absolutely vital point:<br /> <br />We know - or by now bloody-well should know - that we're being lied to = propagandised, and that continuously. I 'monitor' the output of several state-supported broadcasters; they've *all* been sending the same 'tone' = demonising Gaddafi, reporting 'his' atrocities by attacking his own people etc.. Some of it is undoubtedly true, but the important 'hook' here is the 'some,' namely what proportion really is true (as opposed to mainly US-sourced propaganda), and how much/many of the atrocities are really being done by Gaddafi forces, as opposed to how much is being done by infiltrator/destabilisers?<br /> <br />The intervention itself was done with what appears to have been unseemly haste; one report held that the French aircraft were on the way before/during Sarkozy's Paris conference, a fact which was notified *only* at the end, another - equally hastily revised, perhaps, to say that Sarkozy'd advised the conference 'beforehand.' Hmmm. Haste was of course required everywhere, because it looked like the 'rebels' were headed for a loss or the exits, if not both.<br /> <br />The next and obvious question is Q: How much of the supposed 'revolution' was being instigated/done by 'ring-in' (CIA etc.) subversives?<br /> <br />Let me put that, another way: Recalling the known fact that the MSM conduits and *actively* assists lies being transmitted to us, so exactly how far have we been led down the garden path - this time?IDHolmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01952349876651823852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-14525489972061003732011-03-21T21:20:48.324+10:302011-03-21T21:20:48.324+10:30I have found, during this liberating but tragic ti...I have found, during this liberating but tragic time, it very interesting to assess the commentary regrding the events. It has helped identify Russian/China backed sites and Sirael first sites and persons. IO notice Julia was against ridding of Kadaffi despite Rudd rampaging and garnering support, that is also an i opener.<br /><br />Regime change for all the right reasons, will rarely not be bloody when it means death or trial for the loser tyrant.<br /><br />ciao AnnieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7708970.post-10108182400372318232011-03-21T20:53:16.022+10:302011-03-21T20:53:16.022+10:30About 265,000 results (0.40 secs) for "Hillar...About 265,000 results (0.40 secs) for "Hillary Clinton" "Gaddafi must go"<br /> <br />Same as Saddam, Gaddafi was "their bastard."<br /> <br />The US knows (almost) only murdering violence, as the Zs.<br /> <br />The exceptions to 'almost' are threats, coercion, 'commercial action s' (the 'normal' 'resource-rent' rip-offs and so-called 'sanctions,' say) - like those which killed Mme "worth it" Albright's ½mio Iraqi children - and the equivalent ½mio adults killed.<br /> <br />It's a fallacy to argue that the US, Saddam & Gaddafi are *all* bad, therefore no intervention, but we've seen - the US (&Zs) have 'form' - that when the US&/Zs invade, they do it primarily to steal something; murder for spoil, soil, oil.<br /> <br />Just as for Saddam, Gaddafi *could*, most probably *should* be the object of some sort of UN-police action, i.e. be arrested, charged and packed off to the ICC.<br /> <br />BUT: Letting Western powers (US + sycophantic quisling hangers-on) loose on a 'military' intervention is *not* the way to go. Should be obvious, but consider this: a) We the sheople are continually lied to, and b) the US is a known trouble-maker, proof = the $US400mio exposed as having been spent on 'destabilisation' of Iran. The total US budget for 'dirty tricks' is unknown (secrecy is un- and anti-democratic); the US (+ 'sidekick' Zs) are not merely almost never to be trusted to do any *correct* thing, they can almost always be trusted to be *bad*.IDHolmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01952349876651823852noreply@blogger.com